Measles : Homeopathic Immunization Q & A

Video Transcription

{Speakers : JMK – Jeff Korentayer : AAM – Allyson McQuinn}

JMK:

Okay, so welcome everyone. So this is our presentation. As some of you may have been on our previous presentations, we come on periodically to address a specific topic. And today’s topic, we just wanted to focus in on the homeopathic immunization for measles. Just simply, that’s something many people have been asking us about. Our patients are bringing that up and even non patients have been approaching us. So, this is today’s topic. We do want to aim to go maybe around in the vicinity of about 30 minutes or so. We will also stay on afterwards for questions depending on what’s on your mind, what you want to ask more about the topic. I do already have some questions that were submitted earlier on, but we’ll be open to live questions as well. So now very unfancy, I’m just going to scroll down. So here we are. This is us at Arcanum Wholistic Clinic. That’s me on the right hand side. And there’s Allyson on the left. If you want to say hello, Allyson.

AAM:

Hello, everybody.

JMK:

Hello, everybody. Yes. Tout le monde. Okay. Oh yes, we’ve usually done the webinars at night. I had never anticipated a daytime presentation. So you’ll actually be learning “prevention as the royal road of medicine”. I put that in quotes because that’s actually a quote from Dr. Hahnemann, the founder of Heilkunst. We’ll be looking specifically at the measles infection as a viral infection. And we’ll be looking at the history of the measles vaccine which was introduced, we’ll see, in 1963 and what’s happened since then. And then we’ll look more specifically as well into the homeopathic immunization for preventing measles. And we will also be looking at some more general advice on what to do in case of a measles outbreak.

Okay, so that first topic, “prevention as the royal road of medicine”. So ‘most attention in healthcare involves treatment of disease, aiming towards cure as the highest ideal’. And what I’m saying here is that most of healthcare is about dealing with disease after it has already happened, you know, the person is suffering from it. But we all know that “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”. Of course, there’s the “apple a day keeps the doctor away” in my little image here. And age old medical question is of how to prevent disease before it ever occurs—using vaccination or immunization against infections as a key example. And so, as much as medicine works on curing disease, of course, it’s always been the one of the driving goals is really to prevent it. Because it takes a whole lot more to treat and cure disease once somebody already has it than it does to prevent it in the first place.

Okay, so here we have just the general information about measles as a virus, as an infection. It’s one of the handful of classic childhood infections, along with things such as chickenpox and mumps. German measles as well is another one. And measles in particular is a viral infection. And it has about a 10 day incubation period. And once the case manifests more visibly, it runs about a 7-10 day full course of symptoms. So it is an airborne disease spread easily by coughs and sneezes. And the key symptoms are high fever, cough, runny nose and a characteristic itchy spotty rash starting on the head and then it moves down the body. The natural window for measles is between about ages 5-9, give or take, in that window of time. Outside of this specific age range or in otherwise compromised states of health, measles can prove to be more dangerous or even fatal. So the main point I intend to make there is in its natural form, as I was saying, that age bracket of about 5-9 and in otherwise uncomplicated state of health—a relatively healthy child—it’s actually a relatively mild disease. And as we’ll actually see in a minute in the next slide, it’s actually very beneficial for children to go through all these classic childhood infections. As I say, given that they’re properly healthy, and their body is healthy enough to go through a fever in a safe way and so on and so on. All these childhood illnesses and fevers are actually impetus for various stages of growth and development. So, I think that’s on my next slide. I’m kind of anticipating myself.

Yeah, so it’s what I’m just saying here. The positive outcome of overcoming a natural measles infection is that old cliche, “been there, done that, got the T-shirt.” In other words, once you successfully go through one of these childhood infections, (you know, if we’ve all had chickenpox as children—actually, less of us have had measles actually, and we’ll see that again when we get into the the vaccination history slide) but successfully going through these childhood illnesses actually is a very positive thing. And it propels a healthy child into further and further stages of growth and development. And this is the (inaudible) … they’re not to have that experience or to have it blocked through, for example, it can come out in the negative sense years later in negative consequences such as deep, chronic illnesses such as cancer and other immune dysfunctions. Allyson, do you want to add in any points on that topic?

AAM:

Well, I was just thinking as you were talking, sometimes the way I describe it to patients is a bit like an elastic band. An elastic band has to practice its elasticity or it’s not going to be able to be elastic or motile later on in life. And so in childhood, as you said, what it is designed to do is kind of like firefighters—you have to run through many practice missions in order to ensure that somebody’s healthy immune system is intact. And immune system is just a code word for sense of self or individuality. And we can get into why vaccines are becoming more prevalent because that’s really what the Big Pharma is designed to do is to wipe out the individual’s immune function and individuality, unfortunately. So what we’re trying to do using homoprophylaxis, which we’ll get to, is to allow the healthy elasticity to be in that elastic bands so that when anything comes up—ear infections, strep throat, staphylococcus, anything—is that the system is totally on grid. That it is so developed with its elasticity that anything comes up, it just says, “I got this”. There’ll be a lot of T-shirts by the time, you know, a child has been naturally building their immune function. And it’s interesting because I know having raised two children, who are 17 and 21, that after they had a natural case of chickenpox, for example, with a good solid fever and lots of spots is that they had the most amazing growth spurt—emotional, physical. You know, they were able to reach that top rung on the play structure. All of a sudden they had 30 more words in their vocabulary. They were thinking, their cognitive capacities were raised to such a degree that was just astounding. It’s like, wow, something really significant got downloaded while that elastic band was stretched. And so this is really the function of fever and childhood illness. And we’re not talking about polio, that’s not something that we want anybody to have. But the simple, non-invasive, non-issues that last for a lifetime. You know, we don’t purport that we want any child to ever be damaged by childhood illness. But simple ones like measles, chickenpox, I mean, these build not just a strong sense of self but the immune function. And that actually is a whole scaffolding for for consciousness and thought later on, but that that’ll be another webinar.

JMK:

Okay. Yeah, you’re right. That’s kind of a whole full blown topic on its own, Ally. But yeah, it’s definitely worth, I wanted to at least mention it on this slide, give that overall context. We’re not just about being, as you used the metaphor of firefighters, we’re not just rushing in and trying to get rid of symptoms, but try to understand the broader context of health and that there is actually a purpose to childhood infections and fevers. And the medical question, the health question is, “How do you manage that in a way which is actually beneficial to the child and not suppressive?” You know, and not causing longer term consequences and chronic illnesses and so on? Yeah, so thank you for that. So let’s see, what do we have next?

Yeah, it’s a little surprise to myself when I get to see my own slides. Okay, so the history of the measles vaccine. So it was first developed and made widely available starting in 1963. Of course, there were some years of research before that and development and so on. But that’s where publicly it started to become used and available. Now the vaccine, the measles vaccine or in fact any vaccine, it’s working off the idea of artificially mimicking the effects of natural immunity attained when overcoming the measles. So again back on that last slide when I had that cliche “been there, done that, got the T shirt”. Well, that’s the idea of lifelong immunity, right? It’s the idea that if you can successfully go through a certain infectious disease, especially with those childhood infections, you get lifelong immunity. Now there are other things which you can be infected multiple times, but measles is not of that category. So anyways, it’s of this special category where we’re kind of designed to get them once. So anyways, so this is what the vaccine is doing is it’s mimicking this beneficial aspect of what happens after you get the disease and get that lifelong immunity. Now with the vaccine, as I say here, it’s not lifelong immunity that you get. But it’s relatively short lived, especially compared to the lifelong immunity from a natural measles infection. The need for repeated doses or boosters is kind of indicative of that.

Now this whole idea of getting only short term immunity to measles, as I say here, this dangerously shifts the measles infection to older age groups, where it is more dangerous when short term immunity has worn off. So on that previous slide when I talked about that sweet spot or somewhere around age 5-9, because of the way the vaccine works and the short term memory cycles that it has, what effectively happens is within the population the average age of contracting measles from that can be pushed upwards—to older age groups. Where again, when you’re not that age group (5-9), your body is no longer designed like a child to withstand high fevers. Grown ups aren’t really supposed to, aren’t really designed to, have those kinds of childhood illnesses. The next point, kind of on the opposite end, I say it breaks the cycle of natural immunity, where mothers normally would pass on their immunity. So in other words, when you go through the natural measles infection as a child, you grow up, you have children. As the mother, you pass on your lifelong immunity to your infant through what’s called passively acquired immunity when the child is born, quite young, through the breast milk and so on. They get this passive immunity from the mother and before their immune system is developed to the point to develop their own immunity, to be mature enough to handle a measles infection on their own for example. But what I’m saying here in this point, because of the way the measles vaccine works, it takes away that whole natural cycle of immunity, instead of it being passed down from generation to generation. And that now we get robbed of that and now we become dependent.

Okay, so in these middle points here on the slide, it’s becoming dangerous on both ends. It’s shifting the average age of exposure or getting the measles up to a more dangerous age. And it’s also weakening the protection of the younger age group, the infants, because they are not getting that passive immunity from the mother. So it’s really kind of a double whammy. It’s breaking things on both ends. Oh, yes. And the additional danger. The last point here on the slide of contracting the measles from the vaccine itself because it is one of the live virus vaccines. Meaning that the virus is still alive in terms of what gets injected into you. That itself can cause measles in the vaccine recipient, like a full-blown case. As well as be an active virus which can be contagious to the people around them. So, all three of these last points, the measles vaccine creates a lot of chaos and danger in terms of how it works. Any points or concepts you’d add into this slide?

AAM:

Not really. Except that if people want more information with regards to shedding, they can just go to arcanum.ca. And in the search bar, put the word “shedding” and they’ll get our other webinar and slides with regards to that particular topic. Because I know that’s a hot topic as well. And if somebody has not followed us thus far, if this is their first time being exposed to us, I just want them to know where they can get some of that other information.

JMK:

Yeah. Good point. Okay, so this slide is on the homeopathic approach to immunization. And as I say in the headline, “How do you get the best of nature with the accuracy and control of science?” Now what I mean by that, a little bit of a condensed string of words, but the idea of as I was saying in the previous slides, that measles is actually beneficial, right? As far as the propelling the child through those stages of growth and so on. However, it’s not to say that nature is necessarily as Hahnemann puts it, as we say, nature is crude, right? Nature operates in a very… The analogy I’ve used, it’s almost like giving a hammer to an infant. It might smash some things around, but doesn’t have this expert ability to really wield it in a very precise way. So, same with nature. Often, it’s not necessary. It’s like a very clumsy infant or a very clumsy person who’s just going along doing its thing, but it doesn’t have a lot of finesse. So, anyways, my question, How do we get the benefits of the measles? the benefits of nature? the benefits of these childhood infections and fevers without the potential risks or dangers that come with it? Nature is kind of indifferent to whether somebody has a long term side effect or even fatality and so on. Nature is indifferent to that. Nature is just rolling along doing its thing. But as I say, we can still take that benefit and get the accuracy we want from science. And of course, the answer is with the homeopathic immunizations. And with measles, with the other homeopathic immunizations, we have high efficacy without any of the side effects… geting the full immune response because it’s an oral dose, rather than the limited immune response from vaccination.

And I’ll just say a little bit more about that point. Part of the problem with vaccination, because the way it’s injected, the way it’s designed to work, what it’s aiming for (what it does, what it’s trying to trigger), it’s like you’re just aiming to, if you were an artist, instead of drawing the full figure of your model (the full body from head to toe), you’re just kind of drawing one finger now of the person, right? So what I mean is in terms of the way the vaccine works, you’re not getting this full picture or this full in the immune response at all levels. What it’s just aiming to do is trigger what’s called an antibody response. And the antibody response, it’s a weaker side of the whole immune response. It’s like that one finger nail of the whole body or the whole figure compared to when you would do the homeopathic immunizations through the oral dose, you’re going through all stages, all layers of the immune system. You know, from the oral cavity, the mucous membranes into the lungs into all different layers of the immune system. And you’re getting this full 360-degree immune response across all parts of the immune system, all aspects of it. As I say, compared to the vaccine, where they’re just aiming at that one single form of immunity called antibody response, which, as I say, is one of the weakest forms of immunity. So they’re aiming for the weakest thing. And then, in a sense, they’re kind of getting it. And as I say, I’ve kind of touched on this point earlier, “gain the benefit of successfully going through measles, without the danger of crude nature.” So I already went through that point.

Allyson, what would you insert or add here?

AAM:

The only thing that I would add is that with the allopathic vaccination, when you go subcutaneously into tissue, it’s like a surprise attack. And the system’s like, “Whoa! What was that?” And, “How come?” It’s surprised. This is not the way that we normally receive diseases. And just as you’re saying is that the little cilia in the throat or around the tonsils, they’re designed to mobilize disease and bring it through the immune function through its hierarchy—digest it through the stomach, get rid of it through fecal matter or sweat or urine using it’s centrifugal forces. That’s what it’s designed to do. But when a vaccine comes on board as an assault, 19 different chemicals and preservatives, aluminum and mercury, what ends up happening with 19 different chemicals is it ends up in the tissues. And now the immune function’s like, “Oh my gosh!” Propylene glycol and all of this debris from chick embryo and all the rest of it. And it’s stuck there. And the immune function, I find this interesting because in my research, that’s what I’m finding is that if you look at an autistic child, they stim, right? They’re looping around and around in circles, they’re flapping in repetitive gestures. Well, what is the immune function doing now that all of those chemicals are in the tissues? It’s looping. It’s effectively stimming. It’s flapping. It’s trying to get rid as a good immune system should. It’s trying to get rid of all of that chemical onslaught. And even though it’s trying to inspire the antibodies, the whole system starts to then get exhausted, shut down. It’s the same thing as a car stuck in snow. It’s just spinning its wheels. It can’t effectively mobilize or utilize that information because it’s not natural. And it’s not refined. And it’s not delivered in a way where the body goes, “Whoa, okay. I know what to do with this.”

This is resonant, I can actually utilize this homeopathic dose through my immune function and actually make it happen for myself that I am now. I’ve had the experience. I have the T shirt, the elastic has been stretched and it’s come back to rest. And so there’s a greater sense now of homeostasis and balance. And the immune function goes, “Yeah. Okay, I’ve learned my lesson. I’m going to be able to utilize this again.” Whereas with allopathic vaccines, the whole immune system effectively starts shutting down. So when things like streptococcus, staphylococcus, ear infections, cancer shows up later, it’s like, “Sorry, guys. But we’re still working on this matter down here for the next 30, 40, 50, 60 years. We’re not available. Really sorry. But this is mission critical here. We’ve got to somehow get this debris out of here.” And it is literally an immune system in a seizure pattern.

JMK:

Yeah. Which I don’t think is what it really wants to be doing.

AAM:

No. No.

JMK:

No. Okay. So let me see. Oh, yeah, so the next slide, just a little bit about “What to do during a measles outbreak”. So, of course, the whole context up until now we’ve been talking about using the homeopathic immunization for specific immunity. And then my next point here, what I’m going to talk about, the general immunity. So, this is one very general concept, very important. This polarity between the two functions of the immune system that were the specific immunity. When I say that what I mean is like what we said earlier, the “been there, done that, got the T shirt”. That means you’ve had exposure to measles, you’ve overcome it; you’ve had exposure to chickenpox or anything else like that, and now you have that specific immunity, your immune system. It’s like the most wanted posters, the West saloons at the post office or whatever, the outlaws on those posters. Well, those are specific outlaws that the police are aware of and keeping an eye out if they come into town. They know those are bad guys kind of thing. But the general immune system, as I say, that’s the part of you can say of the immune system, of our defense system, which is more versatile. It can deal with any threat, any new virus or bacteria or anything we’ve never seen before. That general immune system is really what take it. It does most of the work, right? It’s ready for anything. Where’s that specific immunity, it’s like that person who works in the factory and then just pushes the same button all day when they’re part of the factory line. Well, that’s the specific immunity. It’s just doing that one job over and over again as it needs to. So yeah. Anyways back to the overall point of this slide. So the things to do for measles: 1) You can take the homeopathic immunization, the measles immunization. But also, the point I’m making here is what’s even more important, 2) The overall health, the general immune system. So that includes everything from the diet and the lifestyle, the regimen, someone’s nutrition and hydration, stress management, detox—all the general things people do to keep healthy. That falls in that bigger category. And also, again, more specifically to measles, 3) If somebody actually does have a measles infection and actual case of measles regimen, generally speaking everything we know about general regimen is true, but also really high doses of vitamin A such as the traditional use of cod liver oil, as well as high doses of vitamin C really ensure a speedy recovery and a safe recovery from measles. So that’s, as I said, just the very general picture where we’re looking at the difference here between the specific immunity and then the function of the general immune system and understanding how those two go together. And of course, where the emphasis (the importance) is more on the general immune system.

Allyson, anything you would put in here as well?

AAM:

Just an anecdote. There was a neighbor kid that got the measles, I remember. And I’m standing at my grandmother’s kitchen in Sussex, New Brunswick. And it’s the time when we have the old woodstove that is fueled by firewood, and yes I am in my 50’s. And I remember this kid coming in and he said, “Mom sent me over to get the dose of cod liver oil,” and said that he would have it. And so yeah, she just got the bottle out. It was a brown glass bottle and dispensed. And it never occurred to me to ask why. It was just something that happened in my grandmother’s kitchen. But I certainly now understand what that was for.

JMK:

And she never had to go to school to learn this.

AAM:

No. Yeah, and it was interesting because hundreds of babies were birthed naturally in the basement of that house. Yeah, it was amazing.

JMK:

Yeah. And actually you reminded me too, Allyson, is people have been putting out on Facebook in the last few weeks amongst all the media around the measles and everything. Some people have been putting up like some of the old episodes like from the Brady Bunch and a few other shows like that where these episode are about one or more of the kids getting measles. And it’s very telling us how families handled the measles. And it was just kind of, “Oh, yeah. It’s one of those things children go through and you send it to bed and all the rest.” But, yeah. So it’s very interesting how since around that time that when the measles vaccine came out, in the 1963 of course, that’s where, as I’ve showed in the previous slide, the measles is not just because of all these other factors. Now, all these consequences of the vaccine, this is in a sense, where a lot of the hysteria is coming from is that we’ve been opened up again to being a lot more vulnerable for all these reasons, right?

Okay, well. What else? So, if you are listening, if you are a patient with us, you probably already know about this. Or you may have already done some or all of this with us. But what we can do, what we can help you with is that specific immunization. You know, the homeopathic measles remedy or chickenpox, anything that you have on your mind. Anything that either you are not vaccinating your child for, or you have not, you will not—chicken pox, measles, mumps and any of the standard childhood infectious illnesses. As well as depending on, again a case by case basis, what’s going on with you, with your child, with other things bearing on the immune system. We can have a much broader look at the general immune system. So with all the things I’ve mentioned before, all the nutrition and the hydration and lifestyle issues. But also looking more deeply at the underlying, the inherited susceptibility. So you know, what we call the word “chronic miasms”. What are the inherited diseases that run in your family tree? Based on what those are, those will cause different sorts of susceptibilities to certain kinds of illnesses, of infections, of certain organ weaknesses, and so on. So again, in our general treatment, we work a whole lot with that of really correcting where those weaknesses and susceptabilities are at the inherited level. So what I have in my note here talking about using what’s called the “homeopathic constitutional remedy”. So actually, that should be a webinar we do in the future, Allyson. So it’s kind of a perennial topic of interest that people have. But the “homeopathic constitutional remedy”, or the constitution itself is one of six different basic personality types, or immune system types. Based on typologies, all of us are one of these constitutional types. Some of you are familiar with that. The silica type and the phosphorus and Sulphur and all six of these types, we use that particular homeopathic remedy which helps to boost and balance that person’s general immune system. Smooth out the rough edges in their system as it were.

The other thing we do as far as measles is concerned and immunity is concerned, we “clear” the after effects of the shock and toxicity in the immune system of any previously administered vaccines. So that comes up quite a lot in our patients. Whether they have previously immunized their child; either they didn’t have the legal option to avoid them; or they were at a stage in their life where they hadn’t really looked into this issue, they didn’t know any better, later they come to regret it or they wish they hadn’t or whatever. But this is something we will do is we’ll go back into those moments in time, those medical events—the vaccines—and actually clear them out of the system. As far as the toxins, the energetic shock that the whole system got from those. And again, it helps the general immune system to do what it has to do without carrying this old baggage, carrying it around. So that’s the whole nutshell of looking at this specific immunizations, measles and other things. And then more broadly looking at what is bearing on a person’s general immune system and what we can do to liberate it from from anything that’s weighing it down at that level.

Allyson, any other points you would make within this kind of framework?

AAM:

Well, just basically, that we’ve been using homoprophylaxis for the past 20 years as a community. And we’ve called back hundreds of patients every year to see after flu immunization using homeopathics to find out if there was any incidence of that particular disease. And while we say 99%, we just want to give that 1% of margin. We’ve never actually had anybody experience that particular disease matrix. The same thing for children, immunizing against measles, mumps, German measles, diphtheria, pertussis, polio, and even tetanus. We’ve not had one case in 20 years using homoprophylaxis. You can also look at Dr. Isaac Golden, whose research extends 30 years. And he is an Australian physician. And he has all of this documented that he’s had amazing, amazing results and in the high 80’s and 90’s as well. Dr. Samuel Hahnemann eradicated cholera and scarlet fever at his time treating hundreds of thousands of individuals in Europe with homeopathic homeoprophylaxis. And again, great efficacy without causing an ounce of harm. One other study that’s pretty brilliant is that there were millions of people subject to the leptospirosis bacteria in Cuba every year. And the first year with the use of the homeoprophylactic dose 70,000 sufferers were no longer. In fact, they had zero recorded cases of that particular disease matrix, no hospitalizations, no deaths. So do your due diligence – the best informed individual that feels the most comfortable and in the most full of advocacy is the knowledgeable parent. And so make sure that you research. And don’t just take what I’m saying or what Jeff is saying, the royal road, so to speak. But make sure. Check us out and check it out and look at for the principles.

JMK:

Mm hmm. Absolutely. You mean, we can do this based on principles rather than guesswork?

AAM:

And that’s the thing is that you’re going to be subject to all kinds of virulent, hot-headed, really emotional, “Just get the vaccine!” and, “Hush up about it.” And you know what? Watch where the heat is. Because where there is heat, there is a lack of knowledge and there is fear. So, when you are connected to individuals who operate on the basis of principle, their knowledge is sound, and they’re usually very calm. More like Jeff than like me.

JMK:

Well you’re more fun at a party, though.

AAM:

That’s true.

JMK:

Okay, yeah. So that’s, awesome. So this slide is telling us it’s time for questions. So I do have some that have already been sent in. I’m going to start tackling those. But feel free to type your question in. It’ll just get popped into my list here. Yeah, the first question. I’m not gonna read anyone’s name. I don’t want to assume anyone wants to not be anonymous or whatever.

Anyways, first question asks,

Does homeopathically acquired immunity require boosters over time?

Yeah, that’s an interesting question. Because, of course, the allopathic vaccine, as we already discussed, does require boosters. That’s tied in with some of its issues why it is not a great one and why isn’t very efficacious. The homeopathic immunizations, well, we’ll start with theory. In theory, no, they don’t need boosters. Meaning that given when someone has it, they’re in a relatively good state of health. And they can have the kind of the immunity triggered from that remedy. It is lifelong immunity. Now, that being said, life being how it is and the various stresses we experience, or again, when I was mentioning those underlying, the genetic inherited issues for all these various reasons, we can sometimes need or do well to have a booster. I’m doing air quotes as I say that. Of course, you can’t see me doing that. But, in the sense that that theoretical perfect lifelong immunity can be, you can say, disturbed by other life events, other stresses, other toxins, other things. And now, the good news within all that, there’s no harm in taking a booster. Anyone taking any of these immunizations at any point, there never is risk or harm. And again, whether that’s doing it once, doing it more than once at different points for the idea of a booster or the idea of if there is an active outbreak in your area, of course. It absolutely doesn’t hurt to think of taking another dose just as that extra protection or that peace of mind aspect. But yeah. So a little bit of a mixed answer. The theoretical part is lifelong immunity. But as I say, you’re not getting any harm by taking it an additional time if you feel you need or want to.

AAM:

I just follow the parent. Because if they’re concerned about something. And I remember being a parent early on, where I was just, because I had a vaccine-damaged son. My son Jordan was thrown into the autism spectrum with stimming, no eye contact, loss all his speech at approximately 18 months, and was constipated so bad he was hospitalized seven times and put under general anaesthetic to have the impacted stool removed from his body. And I just, desperately, desperately, desperately after that experience needed an advocate. And so when I came to Heilkunst medicine and my own practitioner, Patty Smith, when I said to her, “How are we going to protect him in the future from measles, mumps or German measles?” She said, “Whatever you want.” And so she gave me whatever it was I wanted. And when I was not afraid anymore, I didn’t need those boosters. So again, my kids are 21 and 17. And gosh, I haven’t even thought of giving them a booster or an immunization for influenza in them for years now. Because now I’m on sure footing. And I know where I am in knowledge and theory in space and time. But I always listened to the parent.

JMK:

Mm hmm. Absolutely. Yeah. And that’s a good point. Because a big part of it, when we talk about the general immune system, the child’s immune system, right? A huge part of that comes from the parents. If a parent is anxious, is fearful, is really bothered by childhood disease, by fevers—if that’s something they’re really worried about—or just in life in general, if they have anxieties and fears, and that’s just the general emotional tone they live their life in, well, that becomes part of the child’s immune system. Right? So, so as to your point, Allyson, you follow the parent, meaning, if the parents are concerned or anxious about a a given illness, then yeah, (inaudible) about that issue because they have something in hand. That they feel, “Okay, I can do something about it now.” Right? So it can relieve a degree of their anxiety.

Okay, so the next question says,

“If disease nosodes aren’t readily available in your country, how do you recommend getting them?”

Well, they’re fully available through us. When you’re a patient, we work by phone and by sending things through the mail and all that. So as long as you have a phone and a mailbox, pretty much you have access to us into getting what you need. So it is just that. Yeah, that’s a very practical question. But a very practical answer.

The next question. Let’s see here. It says, I’ll just read it all out,

“Is there an increased risk – I’m fearful measles; I do worry that he may have complications if he contracts it while he’s a toddler.”

Yeah, so we’ve touched on that during the presentation. And that was earlier ages homeopathically. But also, it goes back to some of what we were talking about with, What is the overall health in that child and in your family? Were you immunized as a child? Do you have that natural measles immunity? or did you get that vaccine immunity? or are you breastfeeding? You look at all the factors what’s going on with that child. So in addition, the homeopathic nosode also look at the whole picture. What we can do at all levels of you and your child’s immune systems and just clearing that to the best degree we can. And being in both specific immunity and general immunity, ready for if and when measles comes through your door kind of thing. Be as ready as you can for that.

So at the moment, that’s open for another minute or two or so if anyone else is typing in their questions. Allyson, any final thoughts you have given the questions or anything else?

AAM:

Ah, no. Just that I know what it actually feels like experientially as a parent and as a clinician to see what happens when a child has gone from a totally destroyed immune function. I mean, going back to my son, Jordan, who was launched into the spectrum after MMR shot at 15 months. What happens, of course, through Heilkunst medicine, is that by eradicating or removing shocks or traumas or those genetic miasms is that the child’s immune system comes back on board. And thankfully, my son Jordan came out of that spectrum (thank God), and is a fully operational human being on all levels. And the interesting fact, for me, is that he, even though was hospitalized and put on nebulizers and under oxygen tents for pneumonia for two years of his life and living on antibiotics from October right through to April, believe me, I know what it feels like to be that terrified to have a child that I often wondered if he would survive or not, because his immune function was so shot. And we didn’t back then have any knowledge about vitamin D or probiotics, like none of that. No gluten diet, all of this, it didn’t even exist. So to have taken a child and now subsequently patients from that place of such utter compromise in immune function to a fully operational man who is a trampoline acrobat and teacher and Bowen practitioner and runs his own practice. I mean, it blows my doors off that we were able to go from what I thought was base level zero to just the most amazing individual that I know, really, with a fully functional, physical, emotional and spiritual body.

JMK:

Yes, for sure. Allyson, we have a question that has come in. I’ll just read it straight up,

“What do you suppose is the true fear behind measles with the medical system and the media?”

Yeah, that’s… How many hours have you got? No, it’s a good question. And the sort of the first part of how I’d answer that is, just to understand in general what fear is, where it comes from. Whether we’re talking about measles or anything else, whether it’s a medical topic or what have you: Where does fear come from? And fear, fundamentally, can only exist as a function of ignorance. Now, ignorance, I know, it can be a bit of a loaded word. If you call someone ignorant, it sounds like you’re insulting them. But I mean, that just in the pure sense of just having a lack of knowledge or lack of clarity about the true nature of something.

Okay, so just like with that old expression, “the truth shall set you free”, right? Well, until we have the truth, until we’ve been set free, by definition, we have a degree of ignorance. And to the degree we have ignorance, fear is just basically a mechanism to help us cope and compensate with that ignorance. So anyways, that’s just the general thought. But the fear behind measles, there’s many, many angles we can talk about that question. I’m just going to maybe pick one or two. So they’re all kind of floating around in my mind right now.

But, measles, or let’s generalize that a bit. Let’s generalize it to the fear of childhood infections and fevers, because the big fear is fever, right? And we’ve talked a tiny little bit about that through the presentation today. But the fear of fever is very profound. So all the emotional things that people say and do around measles, and around the vaccination issue, is coming from that very charged energy of the fear of fever. Well, of course, there’s an obvious practical fear. Of course, fever can be fatal, right? If in an unhealthy fever process, that can lead to long-term side effects, like brain damage, death, all these things that fever could do in an unchecked unhealthy situation.

So at a practical level, people don’t want the negative side of fever. But there’s even something deeper about fever, or something that it represents, which people are profoundly afraid of. And we alluded to it earlier when we were talking about the function of a childhood illness, and the function of fever propels a child through the stages of their development, through their mental and emotional development, and social development, and all these different stages attained in childhood. Part of that is, as a child grows up, goes through these fevers, goes through different growth stages, what they’re really gaining is, the healthier a child is, the more independent they become as adults. You know, free thinking, independent thinking, able to think for themselves. Again, even at the physical level, able to have a fully functioning immune system. As Allyson said earlier, when you hear the word “immune system”, think of the code word “sense of self”, right? So this whole idea of a healthy immune system, having healthy fevers, going through these illnesses, going through these processes of childhood development, the end result of that is you end up with a very healthy child. Which, as I said, is free and independent, free thinking. Their immune system is functioning, their mind is functioning.

I don’t want to get deep into this on a political level, but some of the mechanisms in our society—the pharmaceutical industry, the profit kind of mechanism of that, and some of the bigger mechanisms running the medical system—they don’t do well if we have an independent, free-thinking population. Right? So that’s, as I say, kind of underneath all of the medical issues and of the more obvious issues around fear of the physical consequences of fever. There’s this deeper fear of actually what you get if you have a truly healthy individual or a population based on truly healthy, free thinking individuals. But as I say, I don’t want to get deep into the politics of that. But if you really study that, the phenomenon and some of the dynamics that go on in the vaccination debate and the measles debate and all these things, you can start to tease it apart and really get at some of those deeper issues that are really driving all the heat and the energy behind that.

Allyson, do you want to. . .?

AAM:

You’re afraid to ask, aren’t you?

JMK:

Or do want to write a few blogs about it? I know that’s usually what you do. When you get angry with something, you write a blog about it.

AAM:

When I get all fevered up? Yeah. And it’s true. Just that one last link I want to make because you did an awesome job of describing exactly a very controversial subject. And I’m glad that the individual that wrote in asked. The bottom line is, too, is that fever function fully threads an individual through their sexual function. So you’ve heard the song, “He gives me fever. Fever! In the mornin’, a-fever all through the night.” So that’s a very important thing because a properly turned on orgastic human being is very dangerous to the status quo. And yeah, so heated up, angered, orgastically potent individuals is exactly what they’re looking to squash. Yeah, people who write a lot of blogs and get really tired and still have a strong… And believe me, I was the most shutdown cancer ridden individual you could ever meet. So I wish you’d known me 20 years before because you wouldn’t even recognize it. I’m the same woman.

JMK:

That’s right. Yep. Mm hmm. Okay, so I believe we’ve exhausted all the questions. Still, I’ll sit here for another minute or so if anyone is in the middle of typing question.

AAM:

Yes. Sorry, a 30-minute webinar turned into an hour, love.

JMK:

No, no. I said 30 minutes plus questions. So we’re pretty much on time. So here we are. There’s our website www.arcanum.ca, our phone number 1-877-233-0779. I believe if the technology is working properly, on the bottom of your screen where you’re watching the video, you should see a bar or little button if you want to sign up for our newsletter if you don’t already get our monthly newsletter. We explore these and all kinds of topics every month, whether it’s our latest blogs or other issues that are going on in current events or what have you. Otherwise, I don’t see any other questions coming in. I want to thank you all. I love getting the questions. I love just having the general participation of people on the other end. And thank you, Allyson. It’s always great.

AAM:

Yeah, we wouldn’t even be able to have anything to explore if it wasn’t for our audience. So I thank you dearly. It’s awesome to have this opportunity. And thanks for asking the questions.

JMK:

Mm hmm. Okay, so I’m gonna click a few buttons and I think that should turn some things off. So goodbye.

AAM:

Thanks, Jeff.

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