One Mom’s Journey To Cure Her Son’s Autism

Video Transcription

Jeff Korentayer
Good morning, Allyson McQuinn.

Allyson McQuinn
Good morning, Jeff Korentayer. How are you?

Jeff Korentayer
I’m doing well. Thank you so much. We’re still talking as if we’re not in the same dwelling. On opposite ends in different rooms. But yeah, we’re beaming in from two different sides of the planet. And, no, we’re in the same place. We’re just in different rooms for sound space. So why are we here this morning, my friend, Allyson?

Allyson McQuinn
Well, we’re gonna go way back. And we’re going to talk about my beloved son, Jordan. And really what he brought to my life with regards to his own illness and his own suffering, and really how that launched me into the research around Heilkunst medicine and how we were able to not just resolve his issues, but issues of children all over the world that had suffered vaccine damage.

Jeff Korentayer
Mm hmm. He was kind of the original test bunny, I guess.

Allyson McQuinn
He was the original test bunny. I spent hours and hours in libraries, with practitioners from all over of every discipline to try and figure out what the heck was wrong with this little guy. And so just to launch off, poor Jordan, after his hep B vaccine at birth, cried around the clock 24 hours, slept 20 minutes to an hour at a time for the first six months. And it was hell on earth. I couldn’t drive because I couldn’t interpret the meaning between a red light a green light and a yellow light. I would slow down for all of them until my mind could actually pick up and and really interpret what they meant. Yeah, and it was horrific. He got an MMR shot that was delayed because I started to suspect that something was up with the immunizations. And so that was a disaster completely because then he lost all speech, all eye contact, and started stimming and rocking back and forth. So, yeah, I’m lining things up. And these weird OCD patterns that we knew weren’t normal. But I mean, we’re talking way back 20, over 21/22 years ago now. And nobody knew what was wrong with him. They weren’t using the diagnosis autism like they are today. So to be lost with, well, no help at all. In the allopathic medical system or alternative medical system, nobody seemed to have a clue what was wrong with this child. And I suspected that it was very serious like neurological. And even the allopathic system said basically, “Put them on Lansoyl [which is stool softener] for the rest of his life and carry on. Some boys just seem to suffer like this.” And I just remember thinking, “I’ve never needed the allopathic medical system like I do right now. And you have abjectly failed me.” I was pissed. And with the anger, I started to boot up real research. I tore apart every modality I could find. And I was a financial advisor at that time. So studying modalities of treatment was not my specialty at all.

Jeff Korentayer
Mm hmm. That’s a whole different kind of index fund.

Allyson McQuinn
Well said.

Jeff Korentayer
And yeah, so that’s a phenomenal story. And actually, just meant to put this on earlier. But of course, we’re talking about your book by the name “The Path To Cure”. And you can find all editions of it here, this website. It’s in the traditional print form for people who still like to take a book to the beach. And I know a lot of people talk about liking their traditional print books. They don’t like looking at screens and electronics and everything. We do have the e-book. And also what you’ll find is our third format, is the audio book. You’ll find that this sublink here, ThePathtocure.com/Bonus. Actually, ever since we created the audio book, it’s been out available for free. So that’s a nice option. We do have the book out for free in this form anyways.

Allyson McQuinn
It’s really intended for that. And it cost over $10,000 to produce thepathtocure.com. But I made a commitment that if Jordan was ever cured and a fully operational model, that I would give away the book for free. And I’ve kept that commitment to great cost to myself. I also paid the woman who actually did the whole audio version. She is a radio announcer in Canada where we sometimes live. And yeah, I paid for all of it myself. And so that’s how important I feel this message is for other moms. Because I was kept in the dark for so long with no resources except the library and nothing forthcoming from the allopathic or alternative matrix. So I made a commitment, like I said, to great cost of my own resources to produce this book and give it away for free. And that’s been since 2004. Right, hon?

Jeff Korentayer
Yep, that’s it. This seems like 1000 years ago, but I remember you being down in the basement on the computer, on the whatever version of Word processor. You’re probably chiseling into tablets at that point. I somehow remember a computer. I don’t know, maybe that’s a false memory. But yeah, it’s the work that you put into writing that. But as you just said, the cost of putting out that book. In one way, it’s 17 years is not that long ago. But it’s a long time as far as how the internet has changed and book publication and everything. So yeah, we certainly were in a different phase of publication at that point. And it was your first book. Because you just said you did promise if you found a cure for Jordan, you would share that with the world. And you remind me of our great benefactor, Dr. Samuel Hahnemann, in his discovery of homeopathy and Heilkunst, and the incredible fame and success he was having in Europe. Like he was curing disease. Like that was a novelty like no one had ever seen before. You know, people were lined up out his door to see this crazy new doctor who was doing something very different. And he wrote it all down. And thank goodness he wrote down his Organon and all his writings. And he said somewhere (I forgot the exact reference) but he said something to the effect that you just said, is that he could have just kept it all to himself [the knowledge to himself] and benefited from a very profitable practice, which he was. But he did that same thing you did. He wrote it all down. And actually, he probably was chiseling it into definitely no Word processors then. But yeah, and he gave it away to the world this amazing new form of medical knowledge. So anyways, you just reminded me of our very good inspiration in Dr. Samuel Hahnemann.

Allyson McQuinn
Thank you for that. So do you want to put the slides up and we’ll get to going on the presentation?

Jeff Korentayer
I do want to do that. Let me find the button here. Oh, yes, it’s right over here. Okay. So Allyson, I’ll let you start. And, of course, I’ll bop back and forth as you say different things, as always.

What One Mom

Found Out

When She Went

On A Journey To

Cure Her Son’s

Autism

Allyson McQuinn, DHHP, DMH, JAOH

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. All I just really wanted to say here is that the thing that I found, and I tried to encapsulate it on the cover (this is my beautiful son, Jordan, that’s probably about five or six years of age). You’ll see what’s supposed to be an ear in the artwork on the cover. And I remember, it was an amazing thing to have an individual, who was a graphic artist, say, “Okay. Well, tell me the feeling of the book.” And he really divided it down into four sections. Four sections being kind of the suffering of Jordan’s diseases from the damage of the hep B and the MMR vaccine. And then there was really kind of working with the therapeutics of Heilkunst medicine. And then there was coming into finding the real Jordan, unpacking him. And then the fourth section really is about this full liberty pose. So really, the tension, the charge, the discharge, and then the relaxation. I love how that was captured. And the wee sprite in his ear. I mean, most people haven’t even noticed that. And I don’t know, Jeff, if we’ve ever even talked about this. But if you look at Jordan’s ear, you’ll see almost like an entity or a ghost-like being. That’s their purpose. That’s the feeling of being guided. A being brought to this system of medicine when three people in one week said, “You have to go and see what they’re doing at the Hahnemann College. You have to see how they’re approaching homeopathy. It’s different. They seem to be getting good results.” And I was like, “Whoa, for God’s sake. What’s another modality?” I have already tried forms of homeopathy and chiropractic and hands off modalities and hands on modalities and all kinds of therapy with regards to getting his facial structure in a better place to learn how to speak. The other aspect that some people know, but not a lot of people know, is that on the left shoulder. That monarch butterfly is an emblem of my mother, Jordan’s grandmother. And she was very sick when I was a child. She suffered schizophrenia, and committed suicide when I was the age of eight. She was the age of 32. And why I placed her on Jordan’s shoulder on the cover of the book, because I felt it was really important that people know that the genetic miasm that my mother suffered from was the same that helped caused Jordan’s issues with autism. Now people say, “Oh my god, autism isn’t genetic.” It’s like, “Whoa. Hey, hold on a second. Because there are elements that are dynamic.” And this is what most systems of medicine don’t understand is that it took Jordan having that genetic miasm from my family, and then the insult of the vaccines to shut them down into the issues that he had with ASD. So just to say that having treated thousands of patients [children] all over the world, and helping them to extricate themselves from the autism spectrum, the same we did Jordan, is that it is dynamic. It’s not all one thing. Jeff, I can’t hear you, honey. You’re muted.

Jeff Korentayer
Oh, thank you for catching that. Yeah, I was just saying I was adding to your points like this dynamic system. And you already alluded to this with that fourfold structure of the graphics on the book cover. Yeah, we need to understand the full dimensionality of the human being. We’re not just a linear black and white, funny little AI computer creature or something. We are very multi-dimensional. And the system of medicine, this whole Heilkunst system, equally matches that multidimensionality. We’ll come to it in the later slide. But yeah, when you look at the different modalities, we may very well find a germ of truth or a nugget of truth in each modality out there. But we need this master system or master plan to understand how all those nuggets go together. Right? There’s logic and scientific process, thought process that really drives the whole treatment system forward in a very predictable and systematic way. Right? Oh, yes, I will control the slide.

Allyson McQuinn
Yes, you are darling.

Jeff Korentayer
I will go to the next slide. Pardon me for just a second. Because I’ll find the button. I may have to bring up this sidebar to do this.

Let’s start at the beginning…

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. It’s all good, honey. All right. So let’s start at the beginning. I was a first time mother, and it was back in 1994. And I woke up one morning and my water had broken at 32 weeks gestation. And just to refamiliarize yourself, 40 weeks is the normal gestation. So Jordan seemingly was showing up eight weeks early which freaked myself and my husband at the time out. And we got in the car and we got to the hospital. And we realized by testing the chair that I was leaking amniotic fluid. And Jordan was born one week later at the Civic Hospital in Ontario by C section. Not the birth that I had expected at all. It was very traumatic for both of us. He was in ICU special care nursery for approximately eight weeks in order to pump him up. Thankfully, he was doing quite well, other than his lung development was very, very latent. So this was another kind of link, I think, to Jordan’s development that when he got the hep B and then later on. Because as soon as he got the hep B, he developed issues with needing the bilirubin lights so that his eyes went quite yellow. And while that’s common in many newborns, it was concerning just because he was so small. He only weighed 4 lbs 2 oz and then went down to 3 lbs 7 oz. So yeah, very traumatic birth from the onset. You’re muted again, love.

Jeff Korentayer
Sorry. Every time the dogs have a little mini symphony, I mute myself. But what I was saying was, yeah, Jordan was certainly a very dramatic example of this. But in a broader sense, this is kind of the story of the modern birthing function and everything. And you know, hospital births typically is a lot of interventions. And yeah, they may seem not too bad for a lot of people or whatever. But we see this when we treat patients. We get all the way down the timeline to their birth, this modern birth. Even, okay, you have a bit of vitamin K shot here, a bit of this, a bit of that. Yeah, it starts to really disrupt this very, very important and natural coming into the world process. So, anyway, so Jordan, then your story, have their own drama to them. But I think it illustrates a much wider principle that we see all the time.

Allyson McQuinn
Right. And then the other thing to note is that I had come to homeopathy by the time my daughter arrived, almost three and a half, four years later. And she had no intervention. We had a midwife for her. And I’d come to homeopathy myself by that time as a result of Jordan’s challenges. And so what a miracle and a gift to be able to really deliver a child with no intervention and no issues with autism and no vaccine. So I know the difference, not just as a clinician but as a mother and as a birthing Momma.

Jeff Korentayer
Totally. Yes. And it’s funny, it reminds me of the point of, you know, the whole business of (and we’re going to talk a lot about this) the whole business of vaccinations. And of course, the big argument is, well, they’ve never and they won’t ever do a study of the vaccinated children from the unvaccinated children. Because it’s certainly not in their interest to demonstrate or publish such results because the unvaccinated children by far show up as healthier and just have a whole different personality and relationship with the world.

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah, I’ve never seen a child have to have tubes put in their ears that were unvaccinated in 20 years.

Jeff Korentayer
Mm hmm. So let me see. I’m going to go off to the next slide. Oh, yes. As I predicted, vaccines.

Vaccines

Two Staged Affair

• Hep B (shortly after birth)
• MMR

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. So it was a two-stage affair for Jordan, specifically. And this is not true for every individual. I’ve served children in the autism spectrum and rare occasions who are actually not vaccinated at all. So just to have a caveat right there at the beginning. The Hep B vaccine shortly after birth, within hours, is given in a hospital birth. Sometimes, you’re not even told about it. That’s why we recommend highly that babies are never separated from their mothers. And that in your birth plan, you decide what feels like the right thing for you and your partner and your baby. After the Hep B vaccine for Jordan, he screamed, like I said, a high-pitched scream that I didn’t know wasn’t normal. I went to a well baby group with a group of women, with nurses in the Ottawa area when we still lived there. And one of the nurses said, “Oh my goodness, that’s not normal.” So I held him and rocked him and swayed him as he screamed. From then on, mysteriously, nurses started coming to my house every day to make sure that I hadn’t pitched him out the window because I was losing my mind. Like I was crying at times, laughing at times, because I didn’t even know where I was in time and space. It was like suffering PTSD. Then the MMR vaccine came delayed at 15 months because he was latent. And the doctor really… I kept saying, “I don’t think so. I had to do more research.” And he said, “No, no. It’ll be fine. You’ll be fine. He’ll be fine. You don’t want to leave them not covered off for diseases any longer. It’s already been long enough.” And of course, he scared me into vaccinating Jordan. And all eye contact within three weeks, and all speech completely disappeared, which I talk about in the book in detail. So yeah, I will never forgive the medical establishment for that. You’re muted again, honey.

Jeff Korentayer
Sorry about that. It’s the all too interesting soundscape we live in. So I have to remember about my mute. Okay. What was I just saying? Oh, yeah. I said it was truly criminal, what you were just saying, with the whole allopathic system. You know, the more you look into vaccines and the research I already alluded to this, the lack of doing research on vaccinated versus unvaccinated children. That’s one small example. But it truly is like a crime against humanity the more you come to understand this whole vaccine business.

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. And don’t trust me or what we’re saying. Like go and look at the vaccine inserts, please, before a child in your family is slated for vaccination. And get the fathers to read it, too. They are usually the most difficult individuals in the equation. Thankfully, I had a very supportive father. My kid’s father was very supportive and open because he knew what had transpired. And with my daughter, he also came to the conclusion it would be best not to vaccinate her. We immunized her homeopathically, instead. And so yeah, I have the test results. My daughter’s 22 and my son’s 26. And thankfully, they’re both healthy now.

Jeff Korentayer
So I’ve switched us to the next slide on the hep B side effects.

Hepatitis B Possible
Side-Effects

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah, so call your doctor at once if your child stops breathing during sleep or suffer swollen glands, fevers or chills, fussiness, irritability, crying for an hour or longer. Now I took Jordan several times to the local hospital and emergency out of desperation, and to the doctors. They had no clue. They just said it was normal. The nurses knew, however, that it was not normal. And was the reason why they were visiting me on a very regular basis every couple of days. Unusual muscle weakness, changes in their behavior, severe skin reactions, and yeah, just diarrhea, loss of appetite, pain, redness at the injection site. These are common side effects. Feeling weak or tired, mild fussiness or crying, low fever, runny nose. And my daughter has become a paramedic. And I’ve asked her, “Have you run into vaccinated, damaged children yet?” And yeah, she can’t say, but I know she has and will continue to.

Jeff Korentayer
Yeah, it’s an interesting thing you just said about the nurses and about your daughter. That if there’s any hope for a seed of change or a shift or anything, it’s as inhuman as the allopathic system is, it still has to be run by humans. So somewhere, doctors and nurses and paramedics, they run into their own humanity somewhere along the lines. And, of course, we have all the modern stories of doctors who have broken ranks, and they write books that they’re not supposed to write and say the things they’re not supposed to say and things like that. But yeah, that’s an interesting thing you just pointed to. Ultimately, the hope is the humanity that we all have even if we’re trapped in that system or what have you.

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. And talk about feeling trapped. Like, Jordan was held hostage. I saw glimmers of his true essence twice in four years. Which meant that like all the OCD patterning and the lack of eye contact, and then no speech and not being able to make connections at all, at all, at all. I mean, all he did was line things up for hours at a time. It was sad and extremely pathetic. And I’m angry that my son was held hostage for those full five and a half years. And like I say, nobody willing or able… And I knew that the doctors knew. I knew they knew. But they weren’t even willing to throw me a line and say, “We know what’s caused this.” Like nothing. Crickets.

Jeff Korentayer
Well that’s it. When you’re in a paradigm or what’s that expression? “You can’t read the label from inside the bottle.” So when you’re in the bottle, all you know is what’s in the bottle. But yeah, there’s a whole shelf of other bottles to look at. I don’t know if that metaphor works, but let’s go with that.

Allyson McQuinn
Right.

Jeff Korentayer
So let me see. I am just going to switch to the next slide here.

MMR Possible Side-Effects

Allyson McQuinn
Okay. And this is also to just to give you a heads up around what the possible side effects are of the MMR. Before, if somebody does choose to have a vaccine by the allopathic system, sometimes the father, more often than not, will insist. We have ways of cushioning that dose. And we’ve done that for patients in our practice for the last 16 to 20 years. Jeff has been in practice for longer than I have. And if a child is in your family, that one member of the family insists that they have a vaccine and allopathic vaccine. First of all, show them the literature that comes within the package insert. Absolutely critical. It’s only about three feet long and several pages and includes things like seizures and death, aside from Autism Spectrum issues in there. And then if you use Tylenol, you lower glutathione in the brain, which causes even more susceptibility for vaccine damage because the protection of the neurons is not there. The other thing to be really is very noteworthy is that we have been clearing vaccine damage for 16-20 years now in children all around the world with phenomenal results with Heilkunst principles. So yes, MMR and the flu shot contain mercury and aluminum and these are very deleterious to neurological health and well being. And so just to be very mindful. And they’ll tell you they don’t. But if you actually look at the package insert, you will find that it’s still there. So with the MMR possible side effects call your doctor if their seizures, anaphylaxis, fever, chills, swollen glands, fussiness, extreme irritability, crying for an hour longer. Common side effects include diarrhea, loss of appetite. And just take a screenshot of this image if you want to keep them for later on.

Jeff Korentayer
Okay. And you have this next slide here on the acetaminophen?

Under Proposition 65, California

may label acetaminophen, the

main ingredient in Tylenol, a

carcinogen. By Alexandra Kelley

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/479220-california-may-rule-tylenol-can-cause-cancer

Alternatively, homeopathy is a federally recognized form of

medicine, backed by thousands of research studies, papers

and clinical trials. It’s been used for over 200 years safely

and effectively without causing harm.

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. And again, before Jordan went for vaccines, this was what I was told by the allopathic doctor, that you must give Tylenol before because it will mitigate the ill effect. But under Proposition 65, California may label acetaminophen, as the main ingredient in Tylenol, a carcinogen. Alternatively, homeopathy is a federally recognized form of medicine backed by thousands of research studies, papers and clinical trials. So we actually do a much better job of pain management. But without, like I say, interfering with glutathione levels or in giving carcinogenic red dyes to children.

Jeff Korentayer
Hmm, yeah. Here’s a great example of how you don’t want the treatment to be worse than the disease right?

Tylenol reduces Glutathione
“Many pharmaceutical products are oxidants capable of
depleting GSH [my note: Glutathione] from the liver,
kidneys, heart, and other tissues.29 The popular over-the counter drug acetaminophen [my note: active ingredient in
Tylenol] is a potent oxidant [my note: it creates oxidation –
free radicals]. It depletes GSH from the cells of the liver [my
note: which is where GSH is made & stored], and by so
doing renders the liver more
vulnerable to toxic damage. “
Protective effects of resveratrol against acetaminophen-induced
toxicity in mice.
Marmara University, School of Pharmacy, Departments of
Pharmacology,
Istanbul, Turkey.

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah, totally. Yeah, so just mentioning before about the Tylenol and the glutathione levels, “Many pharmaceutical products are oxidants capable of depleting GSH from the liver, kidneys, heart and other tissues. The popular over the counter drug acetaminophen is a potent oxidant.” I say, in my world I’m so used to saying “antioxidant”. So hard for me to say “oxidant”. So, promoting free radicals depletes GSH from the cells and the liver which is where the GSH is made and stored. And also renders more vulnerability and toxic damage to the cells and neurons.

Jeff Korentayer
Hmm.

We Delayed Vaccines By Several Months

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah, so as mentioned earlier, we delayed vaccines by several months. And I remember being at a women’s summit in Nova Scotia years ago. And a woman said, she was talking and she was a birth worker and she said to the group, “Yes, we find that delaying vaccines can be very helpful.” And my head turned around on its axis and I said, “Could I see those studies, please?” And she stuttered and said, “Well, it’s just what we think and practice.” And I said, “Well, to tell you the truth, if you give somebody who is a drug user a delayed hit of cocaine, is it any less potent or deleterious to that individual?” And the answer is no.

Jeff Korentayer
And that you remind me of this very famous turn of phrase, “Believing is seeing”. We usually wander around the world saying, “Seeing is believing”. But what you’re just illustrating is how the paradigm (the whole belief structure) makes it difficult, if not impossible, for someone working within the system to see things that are supposedly impossible or supposedly against how they think medicine and health and everything works. Yeah, “Believing is seeing”. I don’t know who to attribute that quote to. But we will put it out there into the ether and thank whoever foresaid that.

Allyson McQuinn
The other thing is just put your questions down into the box on the lower right hand side of the screen. And we will get to them at the end of the presentation. So anything that you have that comes up or you think of related to this topic, we’re very happy to answer. And so what we know is delayed vaccines don’t have any positive, you know, that the idea being is that while the child is older, if a child is nursed, and by seven months starts to eat whole organic foods—avocado, egg yolks, based on the Weston Price diet—you’re not going to have issues where that child is open or susceptible to the disease matrix. I mean, God downloaded within our physical bodies the capacity to protect our children. And you know that big gulp that babes get with a microbiome on the way out through the vaginal canal when they’re born forms really their immune function, plus nursing for the first two years of our lives. There is no reason. You cannot inject chemicals into a human body and expect to create health. I’m going to say that again. You cannot inject chemicals in a human body—including the DNA from other humans and animals, and heavy metals including aluminum and mercury, propylene glycol, ethylene glycol, which is in your window washer fluid—and expect to create health. The DNA from other humans is still used from fetuses that we have no idea where they are sourced. Could be an aborted teenager, from a male human, and then that’s injected into your female baby. And we wonder why so many kids in their teens are having issues with sexual identity.

Jeff Korentayer
Mm hmm. And another quote. I’m getting good at this. I can’t remember who said this originally, but we’re just gonna put the thank you out there. “You can’t inject health through a syringe.” Or ‘through a needle’ may be the more poetic word to use there. Okay, so let me move ahead here. So you have from Jordan’s history.

Jordan’s Side-Effects

• High pitched screaming around the clock for first 6 months (encephalitis)
• Recurring fevers between 104? and 106 ?
• Repeated bouts of pneumonia, ear/throat infections with multiple antibiotics
• Loss of speech and eye contact (post delayed MMR)
• Chronic constipation (7 hospitalizations including surgery with general anaesthetic)
• Not thriving (not on height or weight charts, pulled on his baby sister shorts at 4.5)

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. So he suffered high pitched screaming around the clock for this first six months due to encephalitis, which is just a big word for brain swelling. Recurring fevers between 104? and 106?. Often on and just came out of nowhere, every time he cut a tooth, he would suffer a bout of pneumonia, ear/throat infections. And multiple antibiotics from October through to April for the first two years of his life. There were very few moments when my little boy was not on antibiotics due to a severe infection. Loss of speech and eye contact post delayed MMR; chronic constipation and seven hospitalizations including surgery in general anaesthetic to remove the impacted stool manually from his body. He was not thriving at all. He was not on any height or weight charts. Of course, I criticized me for this, which was very antithetical to the situation that I was in and just provided that much more stress. And at the age of four and a half, he crawled into the back of the trunk of the car while we were camping and pulled out his baby sister’s shorts and slipped them on. And I thought, “Oh my god. It’s just so devastating that we’re living this way.”

Jeff Korentayer
Mm hmm. So you alluded to this at the top of the presentation, all the different modalities you were trying. Do you want to make any special comments on any of these? or of them as a group?

Modalities We Tried

• Allophatic Medicine
• Nutrition: High Fiber Diet
• Chiropractic
• Occupational Therapy
• Speech Therapy
• Energy Work
• Classical Homeopathy

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. Oh, I remember saying to the doctor. They had internist at CHEO, at the Children’s Hospital of Eastern Ontario. You know, really, this isn’t normal to have to put a child under general anaesthetic to actually dislodge impacted stool from his body because he can’t poop. It was something called “bolus” that leaks this very smelly liquid stool, that leaks around the impacted stool in the center. Could you imagine having to put your child under general anaesthetic to have this removed manually? So allopathic medicine was no help at all. Lansoyl, the stool softener, no help at all. They said just put Jordan on a high fiber diet. And I’m like, “Are you freaking kidding me?” Like you have no idea the severity of this. We tried chiropractic, occupational therapy, speech therapy, energy work, classical homeopathy for months and months and months at a time. And the thing is, a classical homeopathy actually would work for a week or so. He would be pooping normally. I mean, he didn’t start talking or anything like that. But some of the things that were acute. And then, all the symptoms would come back again, which was really frustrating but did get me into the library to start to research. Because I thought, “if homeopathy is bunk, and it doesn’t work, then why would it work a little bit?”

Jeff Korentayer
Mm hmm. But yeah, and again, the old expression, “If I had a nickel for every time.” Somebody told me that history for themselves. They’ve been to a homeopath. They have these remedies. They kind of work, they work for a time. You know, they were working just great. But then, boom! It’s like you hit the bottom again. It’s like, “Hey, what happened? Why did it work, but now doesn’t work?” So it’s mysterious until you understand why. But in the experience of that, it’s like, “Okay, there’s something here,” as you’re just saying, “Something is happening.” But somehow it doesn’t fully hit the mark. So, what do you do with that? As I say, when you don’t understand the principles, you can feel very lost in that. Okay. So what worked?

What Worked?

• Probiotics
• Heilkunst Principles… specifically ‘Sequential Therapy’
• GAPS Diet
• His Mother Addressing the Root Cause of Her Own Issues

Allyson McQuinn
What worked? When I went to see Patti Smith at the Hahnemann College for Heilkunst (where Jeff and I trained all those many years ago), because three people in one week said, “You’ve got to go try this type of homeopathy. It’s working better than other types.” And I was like, “Oh, for God’s sake. Whatever!” You know, “What’s one more woo woo modality? Let’s give it a go.” So the first thing that she had me to do was get Jordan on a so called GAPS diet. Which meant that he would coming off all gluten, all dairy. We got him on like lots of probiotics. And then we started this ‘sequential process’ of peeling his onion of all the shocks and traumas—including the surgeries, including the vaccines, including his birth trauma, which was huge—and then right back into the eight genetic miasms. By peeling each one of those things off in order, addressing the root causes, it was like a miracle. And again, this isn’t true for all kids that are vaccine damaged or children that are in the spectrum. Because if there is severe enough tissue damage, those neurons have been broken and completely severed in cases and will not really knit through the properties of Heilkunst medicine or the principles. The reason being is that if there’s enough tissue damage, it won’t regenerate, unfortunately. Now, we have arrested cases from becoming worse in many cases that are more severe. And I thought Jordan was quite severe. And we’ve had some cases that are more mild that have not fully recovered, but that is more like 5-7% of the time. Most of the time, we have phenomenal results like we did with Jordan. And so when I got him speaking again and he said “I love you” for the first time and started pooping all by himself in the bathroom and slamming the door in my face and said, “Mom, I need some privacy.” I remember sliding down the wall and looking at myself in the glass doors in the front closet, and just wailing really with relief. So I feel very blessed and very thankful that I got to live that experience with him. It meant, I was a little lost because all of a sudden, he didn’t need me the way that he used to. And I realized that my whole life had become Jordan’s support network and to figure out how to get this babe to poop. I actually was lost and suffering horrible PTSD. And I had a bit of a breakdown as a result. And so, yeah, I’ll get to that later. And I do get to that in the book.

Jeff Korentayer
Hmm. Now, I’ll just go ahead to this next slide. It’ll further introduce what you’re saying here.

Why Was
Heilkunst
The Path To
Jordan’s Cure?

• law of cure, like cures like
• peeling onion of traumas sequentially
• Regimen
• Principled Detoxification (including heavy metals)

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. So why was Heilkunst the path to cure specifically for Jordan? Well, it’s based on the law of cure, like cures like. Which means that when you peel a person like an onion… And only Heilkunst does this. If you go to any other homeopath in the world, they will not peel the person like an onion. They’ll look for one remedy per person, or each time you go, which is exceedingly frustrating. And I know because I lived it. And so with Heilkunst, you’re applying. And Hahnemann actually said (the founder of Heilkunst principles), and he wrote the book The Organon Der Heilkunst, not The Organon Der Homeopathy. Homeopathy is a principle. It’s not a system of medicine. Just to be very clear. With Heilkunst, we coupled with Dr. Elmiger who was a French physician and homeopath who started to really understand from France that diseases layered in the law of succession of forces. Meaning that you can’t just address the one thing with one remedy in the present. You actually have to take the person like an onion and strip the emotional, physical shocks and traumas off in the order in which they assumed them in the order of time coupled with regimen, which is one of our jurisdictions of Heilkunst medicine. And that was the GAPS diet and using probiotics for Jordan. That was so beneficial, highly beneficial. And then, really respecting his B blood type after that helped a lot, a lot, a lot. Principled detoxification including the heavy metals, done with homeopathic remedies. So again, chelation therapy is not healthy or normal typically for kids under the age of five. But homeopathic chelation certainly is. So that’s removing the heavy metals. Boy, did we see a big difference in him after that.

Jeff Korentayer
I will go to the next slides.

Success Story #1

My daughter was 2.5 when we started working with Allyson and Arcanum. At the time, she had lost all but two words of her speechafter receiving her delayed schedule 18 month vaccines, to which she reacted with days of diarrhea, vomiting and fever. Lookingback, there were many red flags throughout her infancy – starting with her struggles to breastfeed – only after she received herHepatitis B vaccine.

“My daughter had minimal to no interest properly playing with toys or interacting with other children. She instead insisted on obsessively controlling every detail of our days, at which point her tantrums became out of control multiple times per day. She hadn’t had a formed stool since she developed multiple food intolerances after her vaccines, as well – and when we stopped breastfeeding, she stopped gaining weight for months. The light in her eyes was just gone – and I so desperately wanted it back.

I began spending my sleepless, crying nights – newborn son in hand, searching for someone to help me. That’s when I found Allyson and I knew that my prayers had been answered from the first time that I spoke with her. She understood everything and promised me that I would see the sparkle in my little girl’s eyes again. The first huge improvement – just days after taking our first remedies, was my daughter sleeping through the night without waking and crying out multiple times. She was 2.5 and had never slept through the night until this point. Shortly after this, her bowel movements became formed and her belly slowly lost it’s constant distention…and with that, the ‘hurting tummy’ complaints were minimized as well. As we navigated through the first couple of months with Allyson, my daughter gained many new words in her vocabulary – then phrases shortly after. Before she was 3, she potty trained herself in a few short days.

Today at 5 years old, my little girl is talking (all.day.long!) in conversations, thriving in a Montessori pre-school, spelling and writing words, asking for playdates with friends – finally enjoying being a young child. The transformations in her because of Heilkunst and Allyson are nothing short of amazing – and I am so thankful for finding this system of medicine and an amazing doctor who truly turned our world around. As I reflect on the changes over the past couple of years, it pains me to think how different our days and our lives could be now had we not put our faith in Heilkunst.”

~Mom of Former Autistic Babe

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah, I won’t read all of these success stories in detail. But this is a little girl that I served, and still serve periodically, in midwest United States. This is a picture actually I took of her. They drove all the way to Canada one summer just to meet us to find out how and why her daughter cured. So she was 2.5 when we started working with her. And she had lost all but two words of her speech after receiving a delayed schedule. So again, there it is, the delayed schedule. That 18 month vaccines, to which she reacted with days of diarrhea, vomiting and fever. Looking back, there were many red flags throughout her infancy—starting with her struggles to breastfeed—only after she received her Hep B vaccine. She says (the mom says) her daughter had “minimal to no interest in properly playing with toys or interacting with other kids.” She instead insisted on “obsessively controlling every detail of our days, at which point her tantrums became out of control multiple times per day.” And she hadn’t had a formed stool since she developed multiple food allergies and intolerances after her vaccines as well. So just to fast forward, I believe she’s nine now. So, “Today,” she says, “at 5 years old, my little girl is talking (all day long!) in conversations, thriving in a Montessori pre-school, spelling and writing words, asking for playdates with friends—finally enjoying being a young child. The transformations in her because of Heilkunst . . . are nothing short of amazing—and I am so thankful for finding this system of medicine and an amazing physician who truly turned our world around.”

Jeff Korentayer
Yeah, I know it is. I like the little highlights you pulled out. But yeah, that really does highlight some of the unique features in this case. And of course, there’s a lot of commonalities But yeah, I like how you’ve put this together. I think it’s really illuminating. Okay, here’s number two.

Success Story #2

I am so over the moon with everything that has been accomplished with Alexandre and myself. The changes in me have been smaller but I have not woken with lower back pain since our visit, we are eating much healthier, not 100% there yet, but progress in being made. I am craving water and drink 2-3 large cups at work (holds 16oz/cup) and 3 or more at night as well. I feel more awakened to the small things and I am playing more with my babies, which is wonderful!

As for Alexandre, his progress is phenomenal!!!! I attached a couple pictures of what he has done to surprise me. He did both without my assistance, AMAZING! He is far more verbal and seems to be opening more and more each day. He repeats everything, or at least attempts to, he is singing, and laughing so much. I
was almost in tears last night, making a healthy supper of Quinoa, broccoli and cauliflower and chicken and my children were laughing and playing with each
other. Usually Alex would be doing his own thing not paying any attention to (his
sister) at all.

You have made such a change in our family is such a short span of time. I am so
excited to come and see you again on the 26th. All of these changes have made
our family energy so fun and positive. You have even made (my husband) into a
believer. Thank you so much, you are truly our miracle worker.

I have given your name to so many people and I believe that my (relatives) will be
in touch to seek treatment. You will love them both. I have told them that I think
you can help them, I have complete faith in your abilities and I am your biggest
fan!

I know you went to see my Aunt too, I’m hopeful that she’ll welcome your
treatment and at least be able to have her remaining time be quality time.

Again thank you from the bottom of my heart! Alex and I will see you on the
26th!!!!! Can’t wait.

Thank You,
Nicole

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah, this was a very emotional case for me. And, actually, Jeff does most of the treatment of the kids because it’s still a trigger for me. And I don’t think I actually can talk about it without tearing up. So bear with me. He was a little boy. And when I walked in his room (this was when we were in New Brunswick, Canada), I sat down on his bed just to observe him. And from the back, he looked exactly like Jordan. The same hair color, same haircut, same shape of his skull. And he didn’t speak as a result of vaccine damage. And I was having a hard time holding it together. And, yeah, even my voice is catching it still, this little guy. And after I think it was one or two treatments, he started spelling the words Thomas (Thomas the Train), universal, and his name Alexandre. I’ll never forget it. And the mom, of course, and the whole family, I think, ended up coming to see me because it’s a miracle. Like, how is this even possible? So yeah, she was “over the moon”. “His progress is phenomenal,” she says. “I attached a couple pictures of what he has done to surprise me. He did both without my assistance. Amazing! He is far more verbal and seems to be opening up more and more each day. He repeats everything, or at least attempts to, he is singing, and laughing so much. I was almost in tears last night, making a healthy supper of Quinoa, broccoli and cauliflower and chicken and my children were laughing and playing with each other. Usually Alex would be doing his own thing not paying any attention to (his sister) at all.” So at the bottom, “Again thank you from the bottom of my heart! Alex and I will see you on the 26th!”

Jeff Korentayer
Okay, oh yeah. Your story is powerful. And even these little pictures you have here of those words being spelt out. We hear that story. I know it seems like a simple little thing—these little toy letters. But there’s power in language. There’s power in the child coming to language, to speech and words, and so on, which was of course, as they start coming out of the spectrum. Yeah, there’s two simple little pictures and straightforward story you’re telling. But yeah, there’s a lot of power in that for sure. Okay, so I’ve switched the slide over to case number three.

Success Story #3

My initial connection with Ally was truly fate. I had been trying classical homeopathy and biomed to try and help Micah recover from his autism diagnosis at age 2. Through various Facebook groups I had come across this form of homeopathy called Heilkunst. I then proceeded to read everything I could like a normal mom of a recently diagnosed child of autism. I had come across Ally’s book, “The Path to Cure” and read through it in a day. I remember after reading the book feeling a sense of calm, peace, and hope for
Micah’s future. I then began to join homeopathy groups where people would talk about their progress with Heilkunst, and one specific mom mentioned Ally. This had been days after I had finished the book, and I knew the name sounded familiar. The mom spoke to me about how amazing Ally was to work with and how her daughter has now recovered from autism. I knew Ally would be our answer to our prayers for Micah.

Fast forward 7 months …

Today Micah is smiling, he is engaging much more, and he is getting healthier each month. When I look at Micah, now, I now see my little boy and a twinkle in his eye. His progress is nothing short of a miracle. He would never play with toys or engage with others, now he is doing both. I, too, am being treated by Ally and am seeing an amazing transformation which helps to accelerate Micah’s progress.

We couldn’t be more thankful for Ally and for Heilkunst medicine. We are truly blessed to have come into contact with her and Jeff.

Allyson McQuinn
So this little guy was from Florida. I believe. He come to us from using, I think another system of homeopathy, or classical homeopathy, not the other system. “I then proceeded to read everything I could on Heilkunst,” says mom recently diagnosed child of autism. “I came across Ally’s book, ‘The Path to Cure’ and read through it in a day. I remember after reading the book feeling a sense of calm, peace, and hope for Micah’s future. I then began to join homeopathy groups where people would talk about their progress with Heilkunst, and one specific mom mentioned Ally. This had been days after I had first finished the book, and I knew the name sounded familiar. The mom spoke to me about how amazing [this system of medicine was] and how her daughter has now recovered from autism. I knew Ally [well, really Heilkunst] would be the answer to our prayers for Micah. Fast forward seven months … today, Micah is smiling, he is engaging much more, and he is getting healthier each month. When I look at Micah now, I now see my little boy and a twinkle in his eye. His progress is nothing short of a miracle. He would never play with toys or engage with others, now he’s doing both.” Yeah, so we always insist that the mommas are treated. Because like with Jordan, we found out that all of his issues weren’t just in a vacuum. They also were my issues as well. And so treating us both meant that he got to move much quicker in his treatment because I wasn’t holding him back.

Jeff Korentayer
Mm hmm. Do you want me to go ahead to this next story?

Success Story #4

E-mail from Trevor’s Mom after just 6 Heilkunst Treatments:

Just couldn’t wait until next Wed to tell you what a GREAT day Trevor had today. He woke up in great spirits with a huge appetite that lasted ALL day. He got everyone in the family involved in a pretend pirate game in which he declared that I was the captain and he and everyone else were the Mates. We have NEVER played pirates before so I don’t know where that came from. Later in the afternoon, Stephanie got him to play doctor and bandage a cut she had. He really got into character with that one too.

We went to playgroup at our church this morning and he brought a toy car along with him. I warned him that he would have to share it…which he normally would not do very willingly. She said that he would and sure enough, not only did he share…but he ENCOURAGED everyone to play with it…and came to me at one point disappointed because no one else wanted to play with his car…I quickly found a boy that wanted to play with it and he was happy again.

He ate a TON during snack time at playgroup…this is in comparison to the past 2 Wed morning playgroups where he never even sat down at the snack table (the usual for him). He was the first one there this morning and the last to leave. Not that I’m happy about what he ate…pretzels and graham crackers….but he did have SEVERAL helpings of each.

His energy level stayed high in the afternoon and he played well with Rachel (they usually CLASH). He had a swim lesson at 3pm and he did GREAT!! He could have focused more on the teachers instructions and his eye contact could have been better…but he did do everything that was asked of him once he listened or watched. Last Wed was his first lesson and he spent the entire 1/2 hour crying/screaming “I want to go home” and never got into the water at all!!

He did not get as upset and throw things when he got frustrated trying to play a game this evening. Did not get upset when I left the house twice to drop off/pick up his sister. (Dad was home…but Trevor usually wants to go with me when I leave).

He just had smiles and giggles all day and was a lot of fun!!!

… continued next page

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. No, that’s perfect, hon. So this is the last little one that I think we have as a testimonial. This little guy, Trevor. Fascinating case because his father worked for Merck, I think, one of the vaccine companies. And so, that was an interesting cakewalk to walk. “Just couldn’t wait to tell you until next Wednesday what a GREAT day Trevor had today. He woke up in great spirits with a huge appetite that lasted ALL day. He got everyone in the family involved in a pretend pirate game in which he declared that I was the captain and he and everyone else are the Mates. We have NEVER played such a game of pirates before. I don’t know where this came from. Later in the afternoon, Stephanie got him to play doctor and bandage a cut she had. He really got into character with that one too.” So just to say he ate a ton. It was the first time in the morning he had a huge bowel movement on his own, which was also something that was very difficult for this babe. Improved energy levels and “did not get upset and throw things when he got frustrated trying to play a game this evening”. So just big, not just cognitive leaps, but mental, emotional leaps as well.

Jeff Korentayer
And it continues on the next slide.

Success Story #4
Cont…

He was however VERY constipated all afternoon…with a blockage….had some liquidy bms leak around the blockage….but he did finally pass the LARGE BM at around 5 pm today. But, even with the constipation…he was in pretty good spirits….just could not SIT down at a right angle for most of the afternoon…poor guy!!

He did a funny thing at bedtime. He said, next time (meaning tomorrow night) could I have a baby bottle? I asked him why and he said because he liked the sippy thing. Interesting…. He did LOVE his bottles and we had lots of trouble giving them up!!!

Well…I knew you said we’d see rapid improvements with the addition of my treatment! Wow! I really think that ever since the MMR remedy, he has been improving in so many areas very rapidly. As for me….I’ve lost 8 lbs so far!! I’m under 200 and have no plans to ever go back up!!! I’m thrilled. I find this diet pretty easy to stick with….I do miss carbs…but if I just drink the Raspberry Leaf tea when I have a craving, it takes care of it.

I’m looking forward to Trevor‘s appointment next Wed!!

Many Blessings,

TL

Allyson McQuinn, DMH: I have seen Trevor for only 6 visits so far and his improvements have been monumental and we have focussed almost solely on clearing each vaccination booster/trauma using the principles of Heilkunst. When I first began working with Trevor, he did not make eye contact, he constantly flapped his arms, and had many patterns of a ritualistic nature. He would answer questions like, “How are you?” with, “My name is Trevor.” His Mom has been stellar to work with regarding the Regimen component as much of this jurisdiction had already been addressed, which would contribute to the greater resolution in the jurisdiction of lawful medicine we have come to expect in this case.

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. And again, you can read these right on our website, if that’s something of interest. And so, yeah, she just mentioned that “he was VERY constipated all afternoon… had some liquidy bowel movements leak around the blockage.” So do you remember me saying this? These are common elements in kids in this spectrum. And I would love to be able to sit with you longer and tell you why this is the case. It has to do with a lack of proper integration of the sense of the ontic or the ontological element of the human. So the sense of ourselves, the fact that I say “I am” is not something that autistic children do, typically. And that is because they don’t have a sense of their autonomy and individuality. When we unpack them sequentially with Heilkunst treatment, they develop this aspect of themselves. And that’s why Jordan said, “I do it.” “I need privacy.” And that’s when I cried. Because I realized, “Oh my gosh, he has a sense of ‘I’ for the first time in six years.”

Jeff Korentayer
Yeah, and also that point is powerful. It also goes back this whole business of language acquisition and I mean, a baby’s first words and first sentence and everything. But what you just said, one of the most powerful words at a certain stage of development is the word “I” or “I am” or “I do” is the typical one. But that being able to even perceive and understand that word, “I”, perceive what that means is a very, very powerful part of any child’s development. But is a very special thing when that comes out in autism treatment as well. Yeah, so there is grown up Jordan.

Happiness is …
being the mother of a healthy adult son

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. Lots of facial hair and oh, my God, great sense of humor. And, he is one of my most beloved peeps in the whole entire world. And he and I have such a connection. I think it’s because of the base from which he launched from. His beautiful girlfriend, Lana, we met in February in Cancun. And Jordan and she have lived together for three (two/three) years now. And he’s so happy. He loves his job. He became a trampoline acrobat. He became a bowen practitioner. He has always found his own work and jobs and apartments. And I mean, he’s just a fully operational model and he’ll be 26 in 10 days. Nine days.

Jeff Korentayer
Nine days.

Allyson McQuinn
Well, yeah. Whoo. And from a mom who thought I was going to have to have a babe that would be hospitalized because I couldn’t handle him. His rages were so extreme, to this beautiful soft beloved man. I can’t even tell you how happy I am.

Jeff Korentayer
Now, we talked about this earlier. We have, of course, the three versions of the book. Here’s the link you’ve put in here, thepathtocure.com. You can just go to that plain link, you’ll see all three versions. Or go to the link with thepathtocure.com/bonus part. You can download the free audio book. And do you have anything you want to say about the book itself? And then getting the book or how to get the book or anything like that?

Allyson McQuinn
Well, the bonus portion of the show has the update. We did a 10th anniversary 2014 version, and that is the audio book with the bonus pieces, where I actually catch you up in Jordan’s story. And it’s also free. The only disadvantage is that you listen to one chapter approximately a week. The other aspect that is the bonus is that you get the whole of my story. So it doesn’t just end there. My story starts where Jordan’s cure ends. And so he’s cured. And then we have to turn all focus of Heilkunst medicine on to the momma. Because I was a train wreck. I had major issues mentally, emotionally. My mother had committed suicide when I was eight years old, as I mentioned earlier. And my father had dropped dead of a heart attack at the age of 43, when I was 17. So yeah, I had a lot of mental, emotional issues. You know, needed to be medicated several times in my young life, in my teens, in my 20’s. Tons of talk therapy that never really got to the root cause. And so again, to find out that Heilkunst medicine solved not just Jordan’s issues, but mine as well, was huge.

Jeff Korentayer
And before I forget, I wanted to share this nice comment that Sara left in relation to us doing this video. She left it last night, I guess. But here it is. And yeah, the inspirational part, it’s true. As I put this up, I’m also remembering another little testimonial that somebody had said about the book along the line. I forget the wording, but basically they’re standing at their kitchen counter, and they just read the whole book in one, not even one sitting, one standing, I guess. They were just standing there at the kitchen counter, and just read the whole thing cover to cover and just taking it in. And yeah, it’s true. I mean, all the awful things and the vaccines and the rages and everything else you’ve talked about today. But the way the story is told and really the imagery and the scenes and the emotions that you portray and the whole story, you really did a good job of writing that. I remember the time when you were writing the book. Yeah, I think it was truly an inspired thing for you to sit down and do that, you know.

Allyson McQuinn
Thank you. I appreciate that. And it was part of my own treatment as well because as I started to resolve my own huge issues and PTSD from having a child so sick in the spectrum for so many years with absolutely no help or really assistance and knowledge whatsoever until I came to the Hahnemann College for Heilkunst. The thing is that I didn’t realize how sick I was. I developed a tumor, an inch and a half in my breast. I had chronic fatigue, chronic issues all over my scalp with psoriasis. And I didn’t realize that my immune function was pretty much totaled because I was getting all these markers for autoimmune implosion, and a breast tumor in my breast—an inch and a half in circumference. So yeah, I came from a place where I needed quite the overhaul and I didn’t see it coming from anywhere. And then Heilkunst really liberated me in ways that I never imagined.

Jeff Korentayer
Yeah, thank you for reminding me. The happy ending to Jordan’s story is really the beginning of your whole journey.

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. And then thousands of people that we’ve had the pleasure of serving around the world, it’s all because Jordan started it. It is awesome to me.

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Jeff Korentayer
Yeah. So, as Allyson mentioned earlier, we’re happy to entertain your questions or comments. Wherever you’re watching this, just type your question into your comment box, your social media infamous comment box. That’s ubiquitous. Yeah, just type it right there. We’ll see that and we’re happy to entertain them. And what did you put here? There’s one more slide as well. Oh, yeah, this is just our basic contact info.

Contact Info.

Website:

www.arcanum.ca

email: reception@arcanum.ca

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and Twitter

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We’re also on Linkedin, MeWe

and Minds.com under our

personal names

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. So if you know people that want treatment in Heilkunst medicine related to this talk or you want to ask questions. You know, people always want to know about if their symptoms qualify, if we can help them. The answer is always, Yes. And so here is the way to contact us at reception@arcanum.ca. And we’re on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. And we’re very active there. So if you want to just hang out with us and see what we’re saying on a regular basis, those are three places we do that regularly. We’re also on LinkedIn, MeWe and Minds.com under our own personal names, which we’ve listed right here. And you can put us back up on screen, honey, if you want.

Jeff Korentayer
I was just hovering over the button. How did you know that? Yeah, I know there’s either a 30 or 60 second delay from when we talk and when you actually hear us on the other end. And so yeah, we’ll be here if you have any questions or comments. So there is actually a specific question that’s just come in. I’ll just pop this on the screen, Allyson. So it’s talking about women with Asperger’s related to symptoms, and then they are often misdiagnosed as mental illness instead of neuroimmune. Allyson, if you want to get into your answer as well. I’ll just start off by saying, just on the face value when I read this question, the first thing I have to say, or how we have to start to answer this, is this just one word here, the word “diagnose”. And, well, this can suddenly become a four hour lecture, which I’m not going to do. But I’ll say it very, very simply. When you go to our friends in the allopathic system and they give you a (I’m doing air quotes here) “diagnosis”, it’s not a diagnosis. And again, I’m skipping over many, many things that got me to that conclusion. But, they’re giving you a label. And so labels are very easy to mix up and give the person the wrong label. And “Oh, yeah. You have this.” “No, you have this.” And then that’s where the famous phrase “second opinion” comes in. You get a second opinion, a third opinion, a seventh opinion. And it’s just one label after another, and it’s a battle of opinions. But when you get into a true diagnosis, you are not in the realm of opinion. You’re in the realm of seeing directly into the essence of whatever the given thing is that you’re looking at. So, again, there’s a much, much longer version of this answer. And you had to had to really discuss this, but that’s the very first thing I think of. As soon as you were talking about diagnosis in the allopathic system, you’re in a world of like, a house of cards, or a house of mirrors, or something like that, where it’s one illusion (one deception) after another, one sleight of hand after another. And you don’t know what’s real. By the end of the day, it’s like, “Okay. Well, bring on the second opinion.” As I said, where do you go with it?

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. And by treating a person like the onion that we do, the lovely thing is that you can’t make a mistake. Because you’ve provided the spine that becomes the course of your treatment. And so we literally just go along and pluck each one off. The labels don’t matter so much. Mental illness or neuroimmune or autoimmune, it’s like when you get in there and start really peeling the layers back, you start to realize that the issues are anchored to trauma in the past that’s unresolved. It’s related to diet in many cases, especially with immune issues. Neuroimmune, autoimmune and mental illness issues as a huge factor with regards to regimen and diet. And then the genetic miasms. And when you peel those layers off in the proper order, you notice that you get the same results with any patient no matter what they’ve been labeled with.

Jeff Korentayer
That’s it. Yeah, you’re in a very vivid, practical way illustrating the concept I was talking about. That we want to get to the essential thing that needs treatment. And not these, as I said, illusory secondary things.

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. Our colleague in Newfoundland just wrote “Nice tan!” I think I even have some tan lines, Jason. It’s summer after all, isn’t it? In Mexico? I can’t remember what time of year it is. It’s always the same here.

Jeff Korentayer
We have a distinct winter.

Allyson McQuinn
For one month.

Jeff Korentayer
Yeah. But no inches of snow or anything else.

Allyson McQuinn
No.

Jeff Korentayer
Okay. I think we’ve probably come to the bottom of the questions.

Allyson McQuinn
Oh, there was, hon. Hold on. I’m just gonna go up. “Is it possible to learn Heilkunst at a distance?” Absolutely. Contact the Hahnemann College for Heilkunst, www.heilkunst.com or www.homeopathy.com. And yes, all their programs are at a distance. And really, I don’t know any type of education, even if you’re not going to become a practitioner. And that was not my goal when I started. I just wanted to find out what happened to Jordan. And it is the most amazing field of study, especially in philosophy. And it’ll blow your doors off. I mean, I remember sitting in the back of the classroom when they still had in class sessions. With my mouth wide open, just drooling at the back and not even caring that it’s lunch. I just wanted to keep going. It was phenomenal. And I mean, 20 years later, Jeff, you’re still up at 5:30 every morning studying dynamic science and Goethe and Hahnemann and Steiner and Wilhelm Reich for hours at a time. I’m not as religious as you are in that regard. But yeah, I still study very, very regularly. And I mean, it is a love affair. It truly is absolutely love affair.

Jeff Korentayer
So I think that’s a pretty good note to end on. And, as I say, if you’re watching this in the future, you’re watching a replay of this same thing, please type your comments. We will find them. We will whether you answer you directly in the the text box, or if it inspires us to do a future video, whatever the case is. But for us, as Alison just said, it’s a love affair. It’s an ongoing conversation. And yeah, please join in. Please put in your comments and questions. And I think there’s a big learning curve for all of us. And we’re all helping each other on wherever we’re at on this journey.

Allyson McQuinn
Yeah. Thank you so very much for attending today. We so appreciate it. And your questions have been awesome.

Jeff Korentayer
Okay. Well, you all have a good day and a good weekend, if you’re watching us live here. And we will see you the next time.

Allyson McQuinn
Alright.

Jeff Korentayer
Okay, bye for now.

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